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| Posted by: kitson19 on September 17, 2008 at 10:26 AM |
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Hi ,my name is William Spence Kitson and I live in Queensland Australia.I have just received my GGGrandfathers death notice .His name was Robert Spence ,his farm was Rosebrook in the Parish of Carmacmoin Ahoghill.He died 16 Dec 1879.The notice said that he was to be buried in the family burying ground Ahoghill.I suspect that it may have been on his farm.
I am looking for a person who is familiar with grave sites in the Ahoghill area.Any assistance would be appreciated.
Cheers Bill |
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| Replied by: touchwood on January 04, 2009 at 09:44 PM |
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Hello Bill
I can't help you re gravesites but may l ask how you came about the death notice of your GGGrandad Robert Spence and the family farm information?
My GGGGrandad William Spence was a farmer, l believe in the Ahoghill area. His son Robert Spence's marriage certificate in 1884 says his 'home' townland was Tullaghgarley which is near Ahoghill.
Regards
Debbie
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| Replied by: kitson19 on January 04, 2009 at 10:33 PM |
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Hi Debbie,nice to make contact,first I got a copy of Roberts will from proni,then with the date of death I was able to get the North Eastern Education and Library in Ballymena to look up the Belfast Newsletter for the notice.I no longer believe he is buried on the farm but in one of the 3 Presbyterian Church graveyards in Ahoghill.
Robert had a brother William farming beside him at Ahoghill in the Griffith Valuations of the 1850s.I would like to think that it is the same William you are chasing,as I have done a lot of work on that William.He was born abt 1808,died1863 at Ahoghill had children Thomas,James,William Robert,Courtenay,Sarah,dont know their birth dates?.William's wife was Hester?
So if you have any of these names,then I can give you what I have on that family.
Cheers Bill
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| Replied by: kitson19 on January 25, 2009 at 01:38 AM |
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Hi Debbie,The other day when I looked through the Tithe Applotment Books for 1825 I found William Spence Antrim,Ahoghill,Tullagarley and I suspect his son William Spence Jnr of the same place.I thought that the William jnr was my Robers brother?
Cheers Bill |
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| Replied by: touchwood on January 25, 2009 at 08:14 PM |
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Hello Bill
'My' William Spence was married to a Sarah McKean/McKeen. However, she did die after 1858 and prior 1867 per a marriage certificate of one of her sons. If l am to believe the other marriage certificates, 'my' William Spence passed away between 1879 and 1891.So he could have married again. The children l am aware of is William 1846, Robert 1857 and Joseph 1858. Funny that 'your' William ahd a daughter Sarah !!. I guess l will have to check out Proni. These children also have a cousin William born 1861 Co.Down but l suspect they are cousins once removed as their fathers are William Spence. One a farmer and the cousins father was a milkman. The cousin married in Shankill.
So if 'your' William Spence died 1863, then we are not the same family but l am only going by the sons marriage certificates that don't state whether parents deceased.
Sometimes this is the case and its so frustrating!!
Regards Debbie
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| Replied by: kitson19 on January 26, 2009 at 03:01 AM |
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Hi Debbie, looks like our Williams are not the same.I have been looking for years for a Spence relative but no luck.I would just like to share my material with them.
Cheers Bill |
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| Replied by: touchwood on January 26, 2009 at 04:25 PM |
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Well Bill, you did help me re Proni Wills. You never know, Spences in and around Ahoghill, we could be cousins in some way. Will keep in touch if l ever find something that could be useful to you.
Good Day!
Debbie |
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| Replied by: Deborah on June 10, 2009 at 08:35 PM |
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Hi Bill
I read with interest your Spence info. and correspondance with another Debbie. I too have Spences from Ahoghill in the 19th C who moved to both the States and Australia - and were called Robert, James, WIlliam - common names in Co Antrim!!
A Robert McKane went to Australia to visit an Aunt and Uncle Robert and Elizabeth Spence and stayed and married their daughter Agnes. Robert Spence's parents were Robert and Jane Spence.
I am sure that even if not directly connected there must be a relationship somewhere. Ahoghill was very small and with many children in each family there were many connections around.
Debbie |
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| Replied by: touchwood on June 20, 2009 at 08:06 PM |
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Hello Debbie
Nice to hear from another fellow Spence in the Ahoghill area. One other item l forgot to mention was that my William Spence of whom married Sarah McKean/McKane, was a watch and clockmaker according to most of the sons marriage certificates and a farmer on another marriage cert.
So if you do come across this information, i'd be glad to hear from you.
Kind regards
Debbie |
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| Replied by: kitson19 on June 24, 2009 at 02:17 AM |
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Hi Debbie,nice to make contact,yes I think Spence is like Smith and Jones.If you require any more info on my lot let me know. My Spence was Robert b 1796 ,d Ahoghill 1879 and his brother William b 1808,d Ahoghill 1863. I don't know their parents names or if they had any more siblings?
So we could be connected.
Cheers Bill |
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| Replied by: brenny on August 28, 2009 at 03:27 PM |
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Hi Bill,
I am also looking for a spence family 6X great grandmother was born in Carrickfergus approx 1837/1839 her name was Margaret Spence daughter of John Spence and Jane Blacketer/Blackater as per her Marriage cert. said her father was a farmer.Margaret married in Melbourne Victoria 1859 to a Fred Hull. I am new to ireland research dont really know where to start.
kind regards
Brenda |
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